once i had a dream that my cat was working at mcdonalds w/ me and she had a lil uniform and she kept getting fur in the fries and everyone was yelling at me and saying “ur cat sucks on fries” and i was like “shes just a cat give her a break!” and i woke up crying
A Storm of Swords, George R.R. Martin, the page D&D forgot to read
I’m complete shit at articulating my thoughts and feelings so, forgive me.
Last night, when the sept scene happened I was fucking pissed and shaky and yelling, “JAIME WOULD NEVER FUCKING DO THAT!” I even reblogged some posts saying as much. I was a fucking dumbass and I should have reread the passage before I said anything. So, I ended up rereading and yeah, I was surprised and horrified not only with myself, but with the people who are still saying that in the text it was consensual.
OP conveniently leaves out some choice paragraphs. Here’s what happened before this paragraph of “consent.”
"There’s to be a trial. When you hear all he did, you’ll want him dead as much as I do." She touched his face. "I was lost without you, Jaime. I was afraid the Starks would send me your head. I could not have borne that." She kissed him. A light kiss, the merest brush of her lips on his, but he could feel her tremble as he slid is arms around her. "I am not whole without you."
There was no tenderness in the kiss her returned to her, only hunger. Her mouth opened for his tongue. "No," she said weakly when his lips move down her neck, "not here. The septons…"
Wait. I’m gonna reiterate it for you. Cersei just said “no.” And as if that weren’t enough, she gave him a reason for her “no.” She shouldn’t have to convince him to stop. Right then and there Jaime should have backed off. But…
"The Others can take the septons." He kissed her again, kissed her silent, kissed her until she moaned. Then he knocked the candles aside and lifted her up onto the Mother’s altar, pushing up her skirts and the silken shift beneath. She pounded on his chest with feeble fits, murmuring about the risk, the danger, about their father, about the septons, about the wrath of the gods. He never heard her. He undid his breeches and climbed up and pushed her bare white legs apart. One hand slid up her thigh and underneath her smallclothes. When he tore them away, he saw that her moon’s blood was on her, but it made no difference.
Isn’t it great that even Jaime’s narrative acknowledges that he’s silencing her? OTP: kissed her silent.
You think that because Cersei’s protests were “weak” and “feeble,” that maybe she really wanted it (yeah, rape victims never heard that one)? Plus, in this paragraph that OP kindly provided us with, it was totally consensual and she even seemed to enjoy it at the end. But definitely not before he sexually assaults her. How is this not coercion? Cersei protested not only once, but multiple times, giving him different reasons for why not. But I guess because she never specifically said, “Jaime, I do not want to have sex with you,” it’s fine.
I can’t forget about mentioning unreliable narrators because yeah, Jaime is most definitely one. Cersei’s “weak” protests are portrayed as such because they are given to us from Jaime’s point of view. Of course he’s going to emphasize the parts that were seemingly consensual while ignoring the parts that weren’t. So maybe in the book it didn’t seem like it was as violent and horrifying as it was in the show but Jaime isn’t a reliable narrator, we cannot know for sure the measures he took to convincing (could be a bad word to use) Cersei.
There’s a staggering amount of people in this fandom who are saying that in the books it was totally consensual. Well ya’ll have some fucked up definition of consent because Cersei stopped consenting after her first “No.”
A Storm of Swords, George R.R. Martin, the paragraphs a good portion of this fandom hasn’t read, reread, or understood.